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Kapil

Sreeny

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Kapil

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Kapil

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Hope you like the new place..

Kapil

Please let me know….

Sreeny

As mentioned by Bee yesterday, discussions on this flow are now being continued on a brand new forum, www.tradersaintforum.com. Please visit the new site and register yourselves in order to participate.

Makhijani

Makhijani

Waiting for further advice.

Makhijani

PS pl also check your email for account activation link. This link sometimes comes late. Also check in your spam folder.

Unable to login to the new forum, please help. Have also sent a PM to Kapil just now.

Makhijani

On Aug 3 we went long over 12 noon bar hi + f. After that there was no add opportunity as per my reading and my trades.

About rest of your thought process I am not able to comment as I have sworn to go as per the rules laid in the school section for my trading practice.

The link to my relevant post is as under: this just a post for discussions and not for implementation.

http://tradersaint.com/forum/t-139132/anything-on-pivots#post-541841

Kindly shift to tradersainforum as It is very difficult to shuttle here to check up on queries.

Thanks

Bee

Would suggest to shift your discussions here
http://www.tradersaintforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1124&postcount=31

SAR now at 11 am bar hi + f

Bee

I don't actually think that the market is volatile and that there is any danger of the SAR being hit if we move it to today's high, but strange things do happen very often and I think it is better to be safe than sorry. My own perception (not related to the 60 Min flow) is that we are in correction mode and a valid upmove is not likely right away, so a whipsaw is what I would be more worried about.

Maybe some of our seniors can suggest whether we should bring down the SAR now.

Makhijani

Edit : Also, I think we ought to wait for a new PL to form.

gurpreet singh

Makhijani

Thank you for your comments. I was actually in doubt as to whether I should have taken the adds only on the break of the high of the 3rd Aug at successively higher pivots, and not at the points I have marked, but even in that event who could have said in advance that the market would not reverse after going up only a few points above the add triggers. But notwithstanding this, and keeping in mind all the discussions on this issue on various occasions, perhaps some kind of concept could be developed for having special Add Stops, which could later be merged with the SAR once the market moves sufficiently ahead. The other option is, of course, is to treat each add as a fresh trade and keep an independant stop as one would outside the Flow Method. But as you say, tinkering with the flow rules will only result in grief, and I am fully with you in this.

Best wishes,
Makhijani

I have given some indication on figures you can expect where your SAR will be at any point of time in NF.

PS. I'm sorry but I couldn't find what you are referring to, Bee

The url for the new forum is

http://tradersaintforum.com

Kapil

The points raised by you are valid. 60 min flow is a very good method but it is not a perfect method. There is no thing as a perfect method. Certain drawdowns occur in 60 min flow especially when script is in sideways motion. That is part of the game. That is what Satya and Prabh have been researching and pondering as to when to go out of the flow and when to come in. As for me I am always in the flow as we do not know when the trend will kick in and we will be left high and dry. The secret of this method is the adds. Go for adds immediately on correct triggers and hold these adds till the trend changes. This is a nerve wrecking exercise but all experienced players have learned to control their emotions. Statistically over a long period of time your account will grow. As this is a swing type of method, the positions entered are lighter than ambush or miniflow and should be within your MM so as to not bother you with the drawdowns. I have given some indication on figures you can expect where your SAR will be at any point of time in NF. If the SAR position bothers you then you are not capitalised enough.

Rest — tinkering with the rules will only bring in grief. Believe me I have been there and have suffered.

Trade well

Bee

I just visited the new forum - very colourful. I am looking forward to all the other changes there may be in store.

However, for the present, am posting the last 15 days' chart for Nifty Futures:

I have some queries/misgivings about two things that we experienced during this period :

1. Breakdown Failure :- On two occasions, ie. on the 29th and 31st July, we had breakdown failures. Although in the first case we did manage to save about 80 points before the next reversal, we gave up a higher number of points in the next trade, - all while the market actually covered a distance of more than 270 points in the course of these three days.

2. Add Failures :- Adds were triggerred above the previous pivot highs on the 5th and 6th of this month and in both these cases the market failed to move up higher, and on the contrary it made a decisive turn downwards on the 6th.

No doubt the 60 Min flow is designed to take care of all kinds of situations while giving us profits at the same time, but I was wondering whether it is not possible to extract some points from such breakdown failures as well. Were we trading any other system focussing more on market technicals, definitely we wouldn't let all the points get away.

Similarly, we add above the last pivot break, but in this case the add points came just below a major resistance, which ultimately proved too strong and very soon, the adds also turned into losses. Is there a way to overcome this kind of situation without letting one's personal bias of the market trend, the technical position, etc. come into the picture?

I am sure a lot of thinking must have already gone into such issues, and I would welcome all suggestions and advice.

Makhijani

As we have shifted lock, stock and barrel to tradersaintforum. Hence forth kindly post about WW at this link on TSF:
http://www.tradersaintforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=776&postcount=86

All posts have been transferred there and so all info can be accessed there too.

Thanks and trade well

Bee

If I trade in MiniNifty Future, can I keep the same filters (magnitude wise) as used in Nifty Futures

slah

Best regards
Manoj

Most people are using 20 to reverse, a few use 15 and some use 25. Each one has its own advantages and disadvantages, and it is very difficult to say which one is the most suitable.

Makhijani

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

The thing I saind will only work after you verfied your accoutn ny the email you received.

Regards
Manoj

I tried logging in and out but that didn't work. Is it like that for verifying mail, it doesn't accept rediffmail ID or it takes/ may take long time ( almost 1-2 days) to get verifying mail on my mail ID.

Thanks
Manoj

Kapil

Its becasue you are using the same authenticated session for posting which was created before verifying the account from the link you got by email. Signing Out and Signing In again will resolve the issue.

See you there.

I have registered for Tradersaintforum.com. But I haven't received message on my email yet for confirmation of registration. When I log in, I can see forum main page but when I try to access individual thread, i get following message…….

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What is the solution to this. Or should I wait for more time to get confirmatory mail on my email or should I register with other name and try again. My email is with rediffmail.com so I have doubt that is this site ( rediffmail) treat mail from tradersaintforum as spam.

Please guide in free time.

Thanks and regards
Manoj

Slah04

We are shifting over to http://www.tradersaintforum.com/ from now…….hope you all sign up as members,get past the initial toothing issues,and back to our discussions.

We are moving out of here simply because there are many of us who cant join the discussions as they cannot have access to thisforum…….on top of that,this page being a mile long cannot get resolved,it seems.

As our numbers grow,we are finding it too difficult to manage here.

Hope you like your new home…….A warm welcome to you there.

All the best!
Saint

Makhijani

gurpreet

Late post:
long in renuka

a bit confused about this trade,,, no clear pivot yet so keep stop at 10:10 low

Hi Guys, Good Morning.
How many max number of adds does Saint advice in a single trade?

Initial position + 3 adds for Nifty…..for stocks you can go for 5-6 adds also…..

Smart_trade